Mediocre banter and various blather
Via Allapundit (hey, what’s a guy gotta do to get an account in the comments section?) we get the latest from David Ehrenstein, on the pages of the LAT:
Obama’s fame right now has little to do with his political record or what he’s written in his two (count ‘em) books, or even what he’s actually said in those stem-winders. It’s the way he’s said it that counts the most. It’s his manner, which, as presidential hopeful Sen. Joe Biden ham-fistedly reminded us, is “articulate.” His tone is always genial, his voice warm and unthreatening, and he hasn’t called his opponents names (despite being baited by the media).
Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all Magic Negroes, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes. If he were real, white America couldn’t project all its fantasies of curative black benevolence on him.
How does one get published in the LAT? Well, if you’re Ehrenstein, you get to say things like this on your web log:
Reconciliation between a house nigger like Watts and free and proud African-American like Lewis? Not likely.
Nice choice of authors for a column, LAT. I’m guessing that Ehrenstein is on the rolodex of the editorial staff because of his stalwart civil rights background & not his liberal activism, right? Hey, can we look forward to something from David Duke, next?
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March 19th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Does anything think the Senator from Illinois would be getting any play if he was white?
March 19th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Does anything think the Senator from Illinois would be getting any play if he was white?
Nope, does anyone think our current president would have been elected anything but dog catcher if he wasn’t the spawn of GHW Bush? Sometimes people get famous for doing very little.
But as to the post, yeah that is a pretty reprehensible thing to say I wouldn’t invite him to speak at any convention I was a part of, but I guess this means he might get to keynote the next CPAC meeting.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:34 pm
BDS is still alive & well.
A post about a bigoted comment & a notation about the sitting senator from Illinois is met with…..Bush sucks.
You can almost set your watch by it.
March 19th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
You missed the point. Obviously no one can have a coherent idea, if it involves criticism of Bush.
March 20th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
Obviously no one can have a coherent idea, if it involves criticism of Bush.
How would Mr. DeMent’s comment be “a coherent idea” if it were not about Bush? If Bush had no more accomplishments before becoming president than Obama has now that he’s running for president, that would be one thing.
If Mr. D thinks he was expressing something more substantive than BDS, let him start by saying something substantive instead of just slamming.
March 20th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
“If Bush had no more accomplishments before becoming president than Obama has now that he’s running for president”
Hehehe…the thread ain’t about Bush, but go ahead. If you start with anything about education in Texas, stop lying and quit trying.
The point, at least as far as I got, was that while genial and easy going, Obama’s most endearing factor, to the media, is that he is a black man with a real shot at winning the POTUS. Much like Bush, who can claim very little accomplishments, but his last name garnered all the media attention he needed prior to being elected.
I’ve read your blog. I’m surprised that had to be explained.
March 20th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Please inform your pal Patterico that it’s rather rude of him to comment on me while banning any response on his site.
[I’m not your errand boy, tell him yourself. Personally, I can see why you’re banned, there…..and why you’re welcomed at places like the LAT and huffpo. They think black conservatives are ‘house niggers’ too. – RW]
March 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
No, it wasn’t, Cassidy. Hence my notation that it’s a case of BDS for Rick to interject the now-predictable “Bush sucks” mantra into the mix.
What was puzzling was that you thought it a coherent idea or that anyone here has ever held criticism of Bush as some sort of unforgivable sin. Y’see, while you were telling me I missed some point, I was wondering what bail of hay you were building the strawman from.
Never in all my years did I ever think that someone who served as a two-term governor would be pointed to as being someone of ‘little accomplishments’. There is a large graveyard of dead political careers filled with people who went up against this guy “with little accomplishments”.
I know it was only Texas & it’s not like it’s a senate seat from New York, but it’s still something that a lot of people can’t claim on their resume’. The late Ann Richards could only claim one term, being as she lost to the fellow. The chap was more than qualified to be president. Apparently, 62 million people agreed four years later, so leaving it at “I disagree with him” would serve as a much better argumentative point than saying that the most popular governor in the history of Texas wasn’t much by way of getting things done.
Left out the most important part. Starts with a “D”.
March 21st, 2007 at 8:11 am
Popular doesn’t mean successful. He’s been POTUS for two terms as well…whole helluva a lot gotten done hasn’t he. And you accuse me of a strawman. Since we’re going by the “votes”, want to give me the rundown on the wildly popular Taylor hicks, Ruben Stoddard, and Clay Aiken.
It was a perfectly valid point, in that Obama is a POTUS candidate. We already have a precedent of a mediocre politician with lots of money and name recognition getting elected. So why wold Obama’s case be any different?
“There is a large graveyard of dead political careers filled with people who went up against this guy”
Lots of money, hire a good team…next.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:11 am
President Billionaire Ross Perot.
President Millionaire John Kerry.
Governor family-name Kathleen Kennedy-Townsend.
President millionaire-family-name Al Gore.
Sorry, doesn’t wash.
March 21st, 2007 at 5:39 pm
Wow…4 examples…I am awash with contrition.
March 21st, 2007 at 7:23 pm
I can give more, if necessary, since those were recent & off the top of my head. Exactly how many failed examples of money+team are needed before you admit that your premise of money+team doesn’t equal political victory? Or, like your assumption that a two term governor & two term president isn’t necessarily a successful person, are you never going to admit that it’s far fetched?
March 21st, 2007 at 7:41 pm
Nothing to admit. GWB has been a mediocre person his whole life, placed in positions of power by chance and name recognition (and Daddy’s money). There is nothing about him that says anything than spoiled kid with the breaks.
If money isn’t such a big deal, then I guess all these conversations about fund raising are moot. You need money and a good team to win. Is that guaranteed…no, but it’s a guaranteed loss without them. But hey, you go ahead and support the Green Candidate with $5 in his pocket to prove your point. Be my guest.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Heh, Ann Richards, Al Gore & John Kerry would probably say that it was more than just a bit of luck. Whatever.
There go the goalposts….moving down the line.
Never said money wasn’t important. You said, and I quote, ‘Lots of money, hire a good team…next.’
Well, I went ‘next’ and showed you where that premise is as logical as saying ‘get a seven foot center who can score, win an NBA title’. Sure, they are often the primary reason, as evidenced by Wilt, Kareem & Shaq. Then again, number 23 in Chicago showed that it doesn’t necessarily mean victory. Throw in power forward Tim Duncan & you don’t even need a scoring guard leading your team.
Ask John Edwards if money & a team wins.
Ask Howard Dean if more money than anyone imagined plus a team wins.
Ask John Kerry if Soros money and your wife’s money plus the best Democratic team around wins.
March 21st, 2007 at 9:47 pm
Well Ricky I’ve known you for a while and I didn’t think you’d succumb to the Jay C School of Literalism so quickly. No goalposts were moved. You’re not thinking constructively.
Sorry to rob you of your catch phrase, but it doesn’t apply here.
March 21st, 2007 at 11:27 pm
Sorry, one often cannot tell via text when another being literal & when they’re being sarcastic or whimsical or using a bit of rhetorical flair, etc,. I happen to be thinking linearly, btw.